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Veteran or not, that's bullcrap. I know they have laws here that say you can't shut the power off if there's kids in the home, I don't know about elderly. I mean, the guy's 93 years old, he might not have been 100% sure of what was going on.
 

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tragic indeed

my thoughts..
(and you guys are going to hate me after this)

where was his family?
Why didn't he call the elect co and work out a payment plan?
Why didn't he call any number of agencies, public and private for assistance?
Did he ask for help?

I know it's easy to blame a large, faceless corp (electric co) for his death.
I also know I'll come off as a heartless pr1ck when I say this

They're not a welfare or charity org and they're not to blame.
It seems they made several attempts to contact him regarding a $1000 over due bill.
They may not of known he was 93 years old and in need
$1000 dollars in electric bills is more than a few months of use

While tragic indeed, it's a liberal mind set to blame the electric co.
It's not their responsibility to be social workers or provide free services.
If you want that, vote for liberal/socialists so they can introduce new/more gub'mint programs with our tax dollars


..L.T.A.
 

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Ok, I actually agree with you. So let me clarify my thoughts: If they didn't know he was 93, then it's just SOP on their part. Don't pay the bill, you don't get service. If they did know, then it's a crappy thing to do.
 

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tragic indeed

my thoughts..
(and you guys are going to hate me after this)

where was his family?
Why didn't he call the elect co and work out a payment plan?
Why didn't he call any number of agencies, public and private for assistance?
Did he ask for help?

I know it's easy to blame a large, faceless corp (electric co) for his death.
I also know I'll come off as a heartless pr1ck when I say this

They're not a welfare or charity org and they're not to blame.
It seems they made several attempts to contact him regarding a $1000 over due bill.
They may not of known he was 93 years old and in need
$1000 dollars in electric bills is more than a few months of use

While tragic indeed, it's a liberal mind set to blame the electric co.
It's not their responsibility to be social workers or provide free services.
If you want that, vote for liberal/socialists so they can introduce new/more gub'mint programs with our tax dollars


..L.T.A.
All good questions Cap. But a little off target...
My wife works as a Nurse Case Manager and has to interact with the elderly and their health issues everyday. I really don't believe I would have the perspective I do if it were not for her and her perspective on elder care. And, I expect few others see and hear what I do.

Having said that, this guy just drifted away from society and nobody noticed. What was his problem? Dementia? Stubborness?
Doesn't really matter... he was forgotten, and nobody cared enough to check up on him.

The point of the article was that everyday more and more of us are becoming like Marvin Schur. Old, alone, disoriented... forgotten.

If you know someone in your neighborhood like Mr. Schur, stop by once in a while. Take some hot food and sit a spell. Ask if you can run them to the doctor on their next scheduled visit. Give them your cell number and ask them to call you if they need something.

This isn't about liberal or conservative... It's not about assigning blame... That stuff is irrelavent. It's about being human.

Marvin Schur might have been a royal PITA to his neighbors, but he didn't deserve to freeze to death alone.
 

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All good questions Cap. But a little off target...
My wife works as a Nurse Case Manager and has to interact with the elderly and their health issues everyday. I really don't believe I would have the perspective I do if it were not for her and her perspective on elder care. And, I expect few others see and hear what I do.

Having said that, this guy just drifted away from society and nobody noticed. What was his problem? Dementia? Stubborness?
Doesn't really matter... he was forgotten, and nobody cared enough to check up on him.

The point of the article was that everyday more and more of us are becoming like Marvin Schur. Old, alone, disoriented... forgotten.

If you know someone in your neighborhood like Mr. Schur, stop by once in a while. Take some hot food and sit a spell. Ask if you can run them to the doctor on their next scheduled visit. Give them your cell number and ask them to call you if they need something.

This isn't about liberal or conservative... It's not about assigning blame... That stuff is irrelavent. It's about being human.

Marvin Schur might have been a royal PITA to his neighbors, but he didn't deserve to freeze to death alone.
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I'm with you all the way on that one, TraderJ.


reading the article, there was talk of suing the elect co as some how they were to blame.

If they would of framed the article as you just did, it would have a whole different meaning to it.

instead, they chose to make it an EEVVIIL corp problem.
when in fact, it's a social/societal problem.
That was my point

where was his family, his neighbors, his church?
Just a simple phone call to the elect co by any one aware of the situation could of avoided the tragedy




..L.T.A.
 

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You make a good point Cap.
Just because you graduate from journalism school doesn't mean you can tell a story with accurate information. There was sure a lefty slant to it... Unfortunately many readers won't be able to get past the 'blame game' you mentioned...

That 'writer' should have stayed in school a few more years!:wink:
 

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You make a good point Cap.
Just because you graduate from journalism school doesn't mean you can tell a story with accurate information. There was sure a lefty slant to it... Unfortunately many readers won't be able to get past the 'blame game' you mentioned...
I don't fault the writer "too" much.
I've come to expect it cause we've changed as a society in the last couple generations.
And honestly, my first "gut reaction" was to be pi$$ed at the elect co too


truth is though, most of us have shirked our responsibility to
"be our brother's keeper" .

As a society, we've also lost our sense of personal responsibility.
we want to blame credit card companies for our own poor choice to get over extended.
(or buy a house we can't afford)

We want to blame McDonalds for making us fat :eek:

lastly, I agree Mr Schur's generation was the "great generation"
My dad was from that generation and enlisted in the Marines during WWII
(He was in the 5th Marine Division for the invasion of Iwo Jima)

That generation's work ethic, values and morals built the foundation for the luxury, ease and wealth this great country enjoys today.

unfortunately, due to our "easy living" we've enjoyed for so long, we've become a bunch of lazy candy azzes in general...
and looking for someone else to blame.
When we should be looking the mirror for the root of our ills

sorry to get off on a tangent

I do agree with you, however


..L.T.A.
 
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