Sorry guys, I forgot to tell ya, the way I ordered mine, I bought a few of the Thunder Ranch DVDs online, after trying to call Thunder Ranch with no success(2008 Shot Show week) I emailed them and asked them to add a bag to my order and use my CC from the DVD order, for some reason you can order the DVD's online, but not the bags, this is a pain, but their customer service is awesome, there was a mix up on my order and I was charged twice for the same DVD, when I let them know about it, they sent me 2 more DVDs one for the extra charge and one for the mix up,They are very nice to deal with and I look forward to attending a class in Oregon next year, by the way Heidi will take your CC number if you call in the order.