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Or,why I'm a pervert.:crazy:

Apparently somebody decided that spanking your kids gives them low self-esteem,which makes them do bad things. Ironically,I was led to believe that if you did bad things you got spanked. My parents spanked me on a regular basis,and it's fair to say that I deserved most of 'em.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080229/lf_nm_life/children_spanking_dc
NEW YORK (Reuters Life!) - Parents who teach "tough love" by disciplining their children with spankings could be making them more likely to have sexual problems as teenagers and adults, a leading researcher said.

Professor Murray Straus, of the University of New Hampshire, found that children who are spanked or experience other corporal punishment have a raised risk as teenagers and adults to verbally or physically coerce a partner into having sex.

"It's more evidence that parents should not spank if the wellbeing of their children is at stake," he said in an interview.

Straus analyzed the results of the International Dating Violence Study, a survey of more than 14,000 university students at 68 universities in 32 countries. The students were asked if they had been spanked or hit frequently before age 12 and if they had coerced a sexual partner in the previous 12 months.

Men who had experienced corporal punishment were four times more likely to physically coerce a partner into having sex, than those who had not experienced a lot of corporal punishment.

Physical coercion includes holding someone down or hitting them. Women who had experienced corporal punishment were also more likely to coerce sex from a partner than those who had not been spanked.

"People generalize that the use of coercion, physical coercion, is okay. They learn that from people they love and respect - their parents," said Straus, who presented the findings at a summit of the American Psychological Association.

Both men and women who had experienced corporal punishment as children were less than 10 percent more likely than those who had not been spanked to verbally coerce sex from a partner.

Straus said studies have shown that corporal punishment leads to low self control and self esteem, as well as aggressiveness, antisocial personalities and the understanding that violence is okay which may lead to sexual coercion.

He added that there are alternative ways to discipline children that work better and do not have side effects.
Wha-a-a-a-t? Knowing what would happen when my dad got home helped my self-control!
 

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I realy think their info is flawed. There is a difference in level of spanking. Some children just get swatted, some get beat. If a child is Bullied and beaten by their parrents I can see it having adverse effect. but if a child grows up with set rules and they are swatted when they break them and awarded if they are extra nice I doubt that there would be an adverse effect. I would suspect that the survey wasn't finite enough. They went to different countries and probably some of those countries it is the status quo to act as their findings showed.
 

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Just another Liberal that the world would be better without IMHO :hairpull:
 

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Ask Dr. Spock, when interviewed later in life he said his book helped raise a generation of BRATS


I got one for ya, How many of y'all had to go to the bush and pick your own switch?
 

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The article describes Prof Murry Straus as a leading researcher. Well, we know who he's leading - a bunch of liberal candy ass's, that's who. They come up with this flawed survey and spin the results to reflect the outcome they want. What else would you expect?
 

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I still kind of like being spanked.:rofl::rofl:
 

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Women who had experienced corporal punishment were also more likely to coerce sex from a partner than those who had not been spanked.

How come I've never met any of those babes!?!
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Youth of America, need corporal punishment! Kids are running around doing what they want and telling their parents you cant do anything about it!

My grandma was the one I feared. She was a ship welder during WWII, so she's 5'3" of fire you dont want to mess with. She had a 3" wide leather belt with her name carved into it. I tested her a few times to find the limits. Soon she realized as soon as she said "Dont make me get my belt" I calmed my little ass down.

I guess spanking turned me out to be a bad guy that respects his elders, opens doors for ladies and says please and thank you!
 

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My grandma was the one I feared.
Ain`t that the truth. While I feared my parents as I should have, it was my grandmother who scared me sh..less. I never crossed her, and learned the utmost respect for her authority. :notworthy:
 

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There are legitimate levels of spanking. My dad thought it was OK to hit me with a 1x4 and even used a 4' piece of 2x4 a couple times. It left me black and blue and resentful. :frown:

My wife and I decided that our kids only get one hit and that it would be just enough to sting, no bruising.
 

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I'm sorry to hear that. There is definitely a line. Beating your kids is definitely terrible,I think we all agree on that.

But a swat or three on the bottom with a paddle or switch is the way to go sometimes. Most of the kids I see at the grocery store could all stand a few good whacks.
 

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I got one for ya, How many of y'all had to go to the bush and pick your own switch?
I've got one for you, how many had to go get another one because the one you got wasn't big enough?:bawling:
 

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I've got one for you, how many had to go get another one because the one you got wasn't big enough?:bawling:
ONCE, but never again. Because mine would beat me all the way to the bush to pick one the right size.

Problem is...Grandma had 10 kids, and the weeping willow she planted YEARS ago has PLENTY of adequate switches on it. The other problem was when Grandma got a good one, she knew not to get rid of it. So if you got whipped and thought was all good a little while later she STILL had the switch.
 

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My mother made us get the switch, if it broke before she got done we got another. then she would start over. My dad would beat us either with his belt or whatever was handy. I learned right a way the difference between a spanking and a beating.
Mom could make that switch sting but it never cut or left bruises, can't say the same about Dads beatings.
 

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I'll smack my kids on the hand once or twice, just so it stings, but they really mess up, like walking each other's head, they go in the corner at attention for a few minutes. That usually fixes it for a little bit.
 

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There is a BIG difference between abuse and discipline . I dont now and never will condone or allow abuse if I see it. Discipline is another thing all together , I learned early on in my life that negative reinforcement WORKS , if I screwed up when i was a kid I took a whoopin but i never did it again because i learned that the repercussions of my actions HURT :redface: . I see kids todday that have NO respect for their elders and are basically little hellions and honestly I want to shake the parents and ask them "do you really think that by NOT beating your kids your doing them any good for later in life ?? " They have no concept of consequences for their actions. My wife just shakes her head when my frustration gets the better of me and i make comments like "Kids and leashes , that parent needs to look into it " or " kids and cages its a natural fit " i know i should be angry at the parents at that time but it ends up soundin like im mad at the kids ahh well i've rambled to long ...later
 

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TUIven, I think we all agree on that. The problem today is that the ones of us that try to discipline a accused of abuse by the powers that be. Then there are the ones that never discipline and the one that abuse. And yes negative reinforcement does work. As the old saying goes "once you pick up a hot horseshoe you won't have to be told to leave it alone again."

I'm a firm believer in the adage of "spare the rod spoil the child" but also believe the rod should be used judiciously.
 
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