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I saw a couple of these at the gunshow today. It's a really nice looking piece, but the price was a little steep, under $1K. Today was the first time I've heard of these, let alone actually seeing one. One of the things I noticed is that they don't have the dreaded Schwartz safety that the Series II's have. That brings me to ask, if they can make this series available to Joe Public, less the FP safety, why can't they do that with all of their models and get back the customer base they lost when the introduced the Series II. I'm a Kimber fan from from way back, but they lost me with the Series II and I've since migrated to STI. I always thought Kimber was an excellent value for the money, and I'd love to go back to buying them again, but until the FP safety goes away, it's just not going to happen..
 

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Never heard of it would like to see a pic..

i agree on the style of FP safety that Kimber uses that i wouldnt buy one for carry till it went away
 

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Got this from another Site not my pic .. Different looking whats with the rear sight

 

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That's the first time i've actually seen a picture of one, the seration's are kinda neat, not sure if I like them or not. Kimberguy2004, nice to see some familiar name's on this new site.
 

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The front of the sight is cut so that the slide can be racked on a hard surface, such as a table edge with one hand, like if you were injured.
I had to really talk myself out of buying the Ultra Carry version, but Santa needs to bring the wife a carry piece.
I'm still wrestling with why it's not a liablity to release this one to the public without a FP safety, but all the other models are. Go figure..

Also, the KimPro finish seems like it would be pretty slippery if our hands were sweaty..
 

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The front of the sight is cut so that the slide can be racked on a hard surface, such as a table edge with one hand, like if you were injured.
I had to really talk myself out of buying the Ultra Carry version, but Santa needs to bring the wife a carry piece.
I'm still wrestling with why it's not a liablity to release this one to the public without a FP safety, but all the other models are. Go figure..

Also, the KimPro finish seems like it would be pretty slippery if our hands were sweaty..
Marketing and BS Same as Para saying the Lda is safer but yet still selling the normal 1911
 

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I just check the SIS guns over at gunbroker, it seems there are many variations from ultra to full size, rail and non-rail.

Do I really need another Kimber? Well, it couldn't hurt...
 

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So, it would appear that they've worked overtime to make the slide serrations completely useless. But at least they're ugly, so it has that going for it. Well, it could be dessert brown.

Seriously, it is another fine example of how varied the tastes of gun owners are. My choices would be rather boring to some, while I just don't understand some of the new stuff.

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Anyone have one with the Kimpro finish ? Just wondering how it is
 

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Gunbroker is an amazing site. I havn't seen anything there that wasn't grossly overpriced, and you don't see very many items that even have a single bid it it. My success rate of buying sight unseen hasn't been great, so I wouldn't buy off of an of the gun auction sites anyway. But, it would still be nice to have a reference site we could go to to see what firearms are actually selling for. For me, the jury is still out on the SIS, but the selling point for me would be the lack of the FP safety. Otherwise, I have sources where I can buy STI for a lot less than Kimber, so for me to go back to the "Big K", they are going to have to come out with something that really rocks my boat at a price that does the same thing..
 

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If you want to see how many and for how much a gun really did sell for on Gunbroker filter your search to show "completed" auctions. I did that for Kimber SIS and an ultra went for $1049 and another ultra went for $920.
 

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Gunbroker is an amazing site. I havn't seen anything there that wasn't grossly overpriced, and you don't see very many items that even have a single bid.
That's because you don't pay the fees until you sell the gun,so you can list the gun over and over until it sells. I use GB to get a ballpark price,and snoop around for a better deal from there.

Back on topic,the SIS looks like a pretty good pistol except for the horrifically ugly "SIS" serrations. :gag:
 

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played with a SIS that had the Kimpro finish and it was not easy to rack the slide since the finish is so slick, I'm sure it is a great finish, but it is very slick and tough to get your hands on it
 

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Thanks. I didn't know that feature was there.. A major dealer at the show this weekend was selling them for around $995.. Kimber has begun to regain some of my lost confidence, but I'm going to reserve judgement until some owners post on here and we hear/read something besides some slickly written advertisements. Until then, I'm still leaning towards STI. I live about 30 miles from them, and about the same distance from Dave Dawson. I have a friend at STI that keeps my stuff running, so for right now, they seem to be a better deal..
 

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Yes a Slick finish can be a problem .. Baer coat is a little slick but with the checkering and Cocking Serrations it not a issue.. but with them Goofy Serrations on the SIS i don't Know
 

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I wrote this up back in October regarding the SIS on another forum enjoy.

So I had nothing better to do today (out of town) and spent the better part of the day at one of the area's gunshops as they are having a big anniversary sale, and had a bunch of factory reps in today.

So there was the Kimber rep with the new SIS, and all I can say is, it's a gimmick gun, the cocking serrations which spell S I S are hardly functional, my hands were bone dry and with the Kimpro finish, I could hardly cycle the gun. The rear sight has been redesigned to allow one handed cycling of the slide, but is rather unsightly and looks like a benign growth on the rear of the slide, however with the cocking serrations, I think I may have been better off using the sights on my belt to cycle the slide.
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I saw one the other day and my opinion still stands, it sucks. The only good thing about it is the grips, they rock. Hey Kimber! Sell me the grips and keep the gun!
 

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I worked this evening at the range and saw there was a new Kimber SIS in the case. I now see what all the talk is about. I could hardly rack the slide! What an unfortunate idea that was, to make the gun so slick that it's difficult to rack. I found myself trying to grasp the rear sight to help rack the slide, but that didn't help. At least they omitted the Schwartz safety.
 

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