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On a scale of 1-10 What do you consider the S&W 1911 to be? I seem to want one badly and was wondering should I consider another brand?:thinking::flag:
 

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about a 6 or 7
 

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I`d say a solid seven...perhaps 8. I think it depends on how much you want to spend. As far as I`m concerned, if you`re looking at a mid priced production gun, they are excellent. If I didn`t, I would not have bought one.:wink:
 

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7 I would say, It is a good 1911 if you don't mind dealing with external extractors, which I don't. A good production pistol is also the way I would rate it.
 

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7 I would say, It is a good 1911 if you don't mind dealing with external extractors, which I don't. A good production pistol is also the way I would rate it.
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+1 I would say 7 nudging 8.
 
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For under $1,200 it's about a 7. The loose trigger thing that occurs on some specimens makes it unatractive to me, so it loses half a point. Another half is lost on the serrations on the frontstrap over checkering. Another is lost on MIM part use, and another is lost on the series 80 system. The final halves are lost on the external extractor and stupid (corporate bull$#!t) safety precautions acid-etched onto the frame.


Compare it with Baers, Nighthawks and Wilsons and it's about a 6.... but then, it was never meant to compare with them.

Overall, it's an amazing gun. I give it extra credit on the sights, lack of ILS and the warranty. I'd get one in a heartbeat, and with 20 minutes on the kitchen counter I'd have it modded MIM free with a new trigger. It would make a great carry gun.
 

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I'd go with 7.
 

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Not a Series 80 but a Swartz Style System on the Smiths there is a difference the Smith Firing pin block is activated off the grip safety hence the Swartz Colt abandoned in the 40's i think it was.. OD will say for sure

the 80's works off the trigger..
 

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You're correct on both counts Bud. It is based on William Swartz's design and Colt dropped it on war time production pistols, when Commercial production resumed after the war, it was dropped from the line.
 

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Dang im right but be doing something wrong i been wrong all day otherwise..
 

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Not Kyle But Figure about 150 in parts probley to get rid of the MIM depending whos parts ya bought I would but a Cylinder and slide trigger group.. and a fusion solid trigger .. rest of the parts from where ever i liked the best Fusion or ed brown depending who had them in stock
 

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I don't have all of the experience in the world, so you should factor that in my answer. Since I have an S&W 1911, I'll go ahead and give a rating.

I'd rate them at a 7.5 - 8. Mine is built very well, very accurate and I am impressed with the fit and finish. Devours all ammo, including stuff like DPX.

I have 4 1911's. 2 have internal extractors, 2 have external. All 4 of these guns works very well. I used to own another 1911 that had a lot of problems. It was external, but I don't know enough to say one design is better / worse than another.

I know a lot of great, non 1911 guns, such as Sig 220 series are external, so it confuses me even more.

based on what I own and know, I give S&W very high marks.
 

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Bill, S&W is the only company I know of who got the external extractor right on a 1911. I think highly of them too.
 
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Brown, Cyllinder & Slide or Wilson. They all make great parts, and it would probably run you around $150. You'd need a trigger group (I'd replace the trigger with one that fit tighter, too), a slide stop, a safety, a FP stop, firing pin (if you use a regular GI firing pin I believe it will negate the effects of the Schwartz safety, like it does on Kimber guns) an ejector (you could have a gunsmith do this, or you could probably just Loctite it in) and a new magazine catch. No big deal, honestly. Also, spend some money on a set of at least six good magazines, Tripp, Wilson, etc.
Good luck!
 

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Bill, S&W is the only company I know of who got the external extractor right on a 1911. I think highly of them too.

i agree my problems with my Smith 1911Sc were not from the extractor .. but other problems and service... But let me say when it comes to the wheelies they service i have had is second to none..

But on the 1911 i don't think it could have been worse.. but i still buy smith wheel's
 

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Short of Unertl (whose guns cost $2,500 MINIMUM) you're exactly right.
Are they still making guns? and even so i still wouldn't buy one i don't see anything they do over any of the other makers like ?Baer and Brown and wilson..

And ya know what for a 2500+ Gun i want a internal extractor i can walk to the gun store and buy a new one if it breaks...
 

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Damn that thing fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
 
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