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I like the little Crvena Zastava Md70 (.32 ACP) so much, that I have decided to invest in the Crvena Zastava Model 88, imported by EAA of Rockledge FL. This little 3.6" barreled, single action 9mm pistol is based on the Tokarev design (just like its surplus sibling.) Manufactured from solid steel, it should handle any 9mm load that I can put in it! It isn't a lightweight, but it should 'soak up' all of the 9mm's recoil (what there is) quite nicely.

I'll let you know how this turns out.

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These little guns retail for about $220.00; based on the Tokarev design they are a tough, reliable and are potent for their size.

Here are the specifications:

CALIBER 9MM
TYPE ACTION SINGLE
BARREL LENGTH 3.6"
CAPACITY 8+1
GRIP MATERIAL PLASTIC
FINISH BLUE
FRAME MATERIAL STEEL
SIGHTS FIXED
AMB. SAFETY Y/N N
DRILLED & TAPPED Y/N N
# OF MAGAZINES INCLD 1
MICHAELS HOLSTER SZ. 15
OTHER FEATURES: OAL: 7" WT: 28 OZ
LIGHT WEIGHT & COMPACT SIZE
SNAG FREE DESIGN
AMBO RECURVED THUMB REST
COMBAT TRIGGER


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Never heard of them I had to look them up on GB to see what they are. Lett us know how it does
 

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I have been informed that the pistol's trigger is heavy, (up to 10 pounds) and the magazine dosn't drop free that well. It is sold as a good performer and basic personal protection. (There's virtually NO chance of an "unintentional discharge" here!)

That figures.

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I have committed myself to purchasing the Zastava M88 for an agreed upon value of $230.00 (delievered to my pawnbroker's FFL) I just shipped my Russian made "Bounty Hunter" shotgun to Tim Wheeler in Kentucky. He'll allow me $160.00 for the shotgun and I'll send him $70.00 to complete the Kentucky end of the transaction. the Pawnbroker in my "neck of the woods" will ding me for $25.00 for the use of his FFL. After that, I'll pay another $22.50 in Washington State sales tax. Rounding it up to the nearest dollar brings the total that I will have spent on this pistol to a grand sum and total of $278.00 for the pistol. (I also spent about $23.00 in shipping for the scattergun.)

This brings the total to about $301.00.

Oh, well. I hope that I have a real chance to enjoy this handgun!

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According to "Average Joe's Handgun Review..."

EAA-Zastava M88 9mm Pistol


According to the 4th Edition of “Pistols of the World†Zastava was founded in 1900 with help from Fabrique Nationale of Belgium. In their 108 years of existence they have manufactured one revolver and six semi-automatic pistols. Three of the pistols were direct copies of the Tokarev and only two of the six pistols are still being manufactured; the Model 88 which I’ll call the “Baby Tokarev†and an economy-line copy of the classic SIG design.



Well when I entered the gun shop/range one Saturday for my weekly expenditure of copper, lead, and brass, the EAA-Zastava Model 88 was sitting atop the highest shelf in their freestanding display case. I was immediately struck by two things: the quality of the finish and how small the pistol was. To give you some idea of size, it is about as big and the Colt Pocket Hammerless model 1903 and 1908 models.
Interestingly enough the Browning-Colt designs were what the Russians were copying when they produced the Tokarev. It has the same barrel link as the Colt 1911 and the same barrel bushing as the first Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless pistols.



The model 88 holds 8 + 1 rounds of 9mm, weighs 28 ounces, is 7 inches long with a three inch barrel, stands 6 inches tall and at the widest point, which is the grips, is 1.25 inches wide. The slide and grip frame width is .8 inches wide.

In handling the pistol a lot of what I saw and felt caused me to remind myself that it was only a $249.00 pistol, you can’t expect much. Two things that didn’t fit that expectation were the blacked finish, which was good for a $249.00 pistol (but not great) and the accuracy at 21 feet which, due to running out of ammo, was all I could shoot on that day. The handling qualities of the pistol were rather rough; for $249 you don’t expect a silky-smooth fit in terms of slide to frame and magazine extraction. This is a single action pistol that would be carried cocked and locked, however, the trigger pull is nothing like you are going to find on most other Single Actions. It is stiff; I don’t have a trigger pull gauge (yet) but I would guess that the pull is over 10 pounds. (Since that day I did acquire a Lyman trigger gauge and the pull measured 11.4 pounds and has since smoothed out to 10.2 pounds) There is a slight amount of take up before you engage the stiff pull. Actually I am not totally unhappy with this since I intend to carry this as soon as I am comfortable with its performance and all too often a light trigger pull becomes a nightmare in criminal or civil court; no one is going to accuse you of having a hair trigger on this pistol.


The sights have three dots on the barely utilitarian Tokarev type front blade and rear “u†notch. The three dots seem to be almost an afterthought; the front dot is so small I could not see it in indoor range lighting. I have since built up the front sight with some of my daughter’s hi-gloss mauve fingernail polish.



The rear notch is shallow which is not all that bad since the pistol, at 21 feet, seemed to be fairly well regulated. The notch needs to be wider and I will take a file to it as soon as I remember who I lent my metal files to.



The grips are rather bland, but certainly utilitarian for their intended purpose but I wish they were slimmer. This pistol is so thin that it would be great if the grips complimented that factor. I will probably have to live with this since I am pretty sure that there is not going to be an outpouring of aftermarket grips for this pistol.




I only had time and ammo enough to put 81 rounds through it and at least one round failed to properly feed in each magazine for the first several magazines. That began to clear up toward the end and I have to take into consideration that one, I was shooting the pistol dry right out of the box and two, even thousand dollar Kimber and Springfields require a lengthy shoot-in period. I anxiously wait next weekend to see if the FTFs work themselves out of the pistol.



On the next two subsequent outings the feeding malfunctions continued. Upon examining the rails it appeared that the slide may be catching on the hammer housing when it returned to battery. I have no evidence to prove that in that there are no wear marks on the housing but the housing area seemed to be about the place that there was a noticeable “hitch†when racking the slide and when removing the housing and racking the slide it moved back and forth very smoothly.



Fortunately today, on the fourth outing and about 350 rounds through the pistol, she performed without any malfunctions including hollowpoints and +P ammunition.
As I mentioned earlier the finish was better than expected and so was the short range accuracy.


This pistol certainly is not going to win raves at the next BBQ but for someone on a limited budget this could provide them with basic protection. Another plus, God forbid, would be that if you were faced with having to shoot someone, you would not fret much about having to turn it over to the police like you would if it were your thousand dollar Kimber or Springfield status pistol.
 

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Today, I sent off the final payment ($70.00) to Tim Wheeler at Discount Guns.com in Lexington, Kentucky. I have set aside the $44.00 required to use the services of a local pawnbroker (as well as the Washington State sales tax) to get this "Baby Tokarev" home, and in my hot little hands.

The waiting begins!

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Discussion Starter · #11 · (Edited)
Thank you, my friend. There are so many great firearm values from Serbia, (formerly Yugoslavia) and other Eastern European manufacturers. I figure that a trigger/action job could result in a 3-4 lb. trigger pull. aside from that, a simple "sight augmentation" exercise (enhancing the front sight, deepening the rear "U" notch, etc.) should make this tittle 28-ounce "marvel" a bantam-weight champ in its own right!

Let's face it, some well-placed rounds from a 3.6" barreled 9 X 19 pistol, will beat the living daylights out of ANY 9 x 18 Makarov, 380 ACP, .32 ACP, et. al.. If I can "hammer" a BG that is either "jonesing" for a hit, or that's "higher than a kite" with several rounds of 9mm Parabellum, I'll be far better off. These punks will likely react more quickly to the ammunition fired from this pistol far more readily than from it's lower-powered "stablemates."


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Today, I spoke with EAA and their resident gunsmith told me that:

a: They had never heard of a M88 that had such a heavy trigger pull.

b: Their "sample" pistol had 5000 rounds fired through it without any significant problems. (He also said that their "sample" pistol had about a 4-lb. trigger pull.)

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Good news! Since I am only paying out $70.00 for the remainder of what I owe on the Zastava M88, I'll only pay about $6.00 in Washington State sales tax!

You MUST love that!

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The Zastava that I will recieve will be one of the first 1000 produced by the plant in Serbia. (You must admit, that is rather unique.) Tim Wheeler of DiscountGunner.com personally tested (read: dry fired) the pistol that he is sending me, so that I will have the pistol with the lighter trigger pull of the two that were in his posession.

This is beginnng to sound better all the time!

Scott

P.S: I spoke with Tim this morning, and he told me that the Zastava that he was sending me had about a 7-lb trigger pull.

Works for me!
 
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