With the right ammo I have gotten sub 2 inch groupings at 25 yards. Black Hills 230 grain is the only 230 grain rounds I've been able to do that with. I have also done it with 185 grain. Don't know if I could do it without the green fiber optic sight. It makes target acqusistion easier. Anyway I will put my 1911 up against any other out there including the $2k ones. Lets go to the range.