what a great forum. it will sure help me learn more about fireams. Im a lucky man. my wife do'snt want flowers or jewelery, just more guns. So far 6 s.a. & 8 wheel guns. Its a start anyway. we both have our chls.My carry go's between a s&w642 & a kimber custom cdp2 compact, her's is a hk usp 9 compact . Slowpoke