[longtooth]

Some of you live in states that hospitals are off limits to carry. In Texas they have to be properly posted w/ a legally worded sign to be off limits. Hospitals are one of the most dangerous places I find myself.

Just got back from the local small town hospital here in Lufkin. One of our members w/ heart trouble in again. AS soon as I entered the parking lot I knew there was trouble. 2 Police crusers parked at the ER door. This is about 12:30PM so we are not talkin about the bad hrs of the night.

Enter ER to find my patient. Real 3rd degree as to who I am & how I am tied to the patient. I am his pastor & since this is Monday I am supposed to be off so dressed in faded jeans & old shirt. Of coarse w/ a vest over said shirt & my friend Snoot under said vest.

They let me go back & as I enter the room portion, first thing evident is police officer just inside the door at a desk. Another one at the end of the long hall of rooms. Two unarmed hospital security guards behind the nurses station desk.

What's going on? Dont know. Just know it dont take Perry Mason to know this is not the safe haven the LEOs would make us think.

Man, I am glad the hospitals here are not posted. :hairpull:
LT

 

[NordicRX8]

We have two hospitals in our area. The one I visit most is always expanding... as a matter of fact, they added a complete staff of hospital police. Apparently, they have jurisdiction over the local police. Apparently, the hospital is privately owned so their officers have authority over the local PD when things happen on their property. A co-worker's husband just got a job working security at this hospital... they wear vests, carry Glock 19s as well as handcuffs, a baton and a bottle of pepper spray. I found it interesting that the hospital is posted and the guards are armed... but that the guards have been informed that they are NOT to ever pull their weapons out of their holsters. Withdrawing a weapon from its holster is an automatic dismissal. :crazy:

Make the hospital a Criminal Protection Zone and cripple your security force... great. Maybe its time to start using the "other" hospital for my medical emergencies. :thinking:

 

[Texasdoc]

Hey LT just remember to watch your 6 as yes there are a place that disarms most of us. the local one here is not posted and that makes me feel better as I have to go every 2 weeks to get my tests done.


I hope you found out what was going on there.


Doc

 

[Bud White]

i hate it ours are posted here i try to avoid going to them

 

[Primersinmyshoe]

I'm afraid I have to go to the hospital every day - for work. The no gun sign is at the door, and not at the entrance to the garage. It's from the car to the door that I'm on high alert.

 

[msjdgman]

Unfortunately, ours is free from having to post due to MI pistol free zones. It irks the heck out of me.:crazy:

 

[longtooth]

Hey LT just remember to watch your 6 as yes there are a place that disarms most of us. the local one here is not posted and that makes me feel better as I have to go every 2 weeks to get my tests done.


I hope you found out what was going on there.


Doc

Never did. Could be anythig from fight at a traffic wreck to really bad stuff. Bottom line is hospitals are dangerous places.
Glad you are better & praying per our tele conversation this afternoon.
LT

 

[Ping Ping]

Hospitals are dangerous? No kidding! More people die in them than all other places combined!:biglaugh:

Seriously though, from a self defense perspective, they are dangerous indeed. In 20yrs as a rehab nurse, my mom saw her hospital go from doors always open, retirees as security and female nurses walking across unlit parking lots in the wee hrs of the morning... to... Doors locked down 24/7, armed 20-somethings with an armory on site, parking lots lit up like the Vegas strip and all staff escorted to their vehicles. They eventually had gang related violence on a weekly basis and four fatal shootings in her last 5yrs. And this was in the serene and conservative city of Salt Lake.

When I took my CHL class many years ago, there were three nurses and a physician in the class. Asked why such a dramatic turnout from the medical profession, I was told they were scared due to three incidences of gun violence in their hospital within a month. This was in the small city of Roanoke, VA.

The range where my class was taught, was sort of a Country Club for me and my friends. We were invariably there, socializing, telling tall tales and comparing latest aquisitions, when the Saturday AM CHL class arrived. Many of the atendees were dressed in scrubs. The instructor told us that medical professionals were by far the highest percentage of his students.

Our local hospital is not posted. My physicians office is located inside and she and her staff are finally over the shock of seeing my 1911 laying on the chair when I have to disrobe for an exam.

 

[AZ Husker]

My daughter did part of her internship in the county (read Welfare) hospital here. While working the ER, she said "If you're not stabbed when you come in, you will be before you leave".

 

[Highpwr]

Hospitals. Dangerous place.

Wow, talk about deja-vu! I had to run to a city hospital ER last night (injured relative) and could not believe the zoo I walked into!

Hospitals here are off limits for carry and posted as such. Entered ER and immediately stopped by 4 (armed) security guards. Empty pockets, go through metal detector, retrieve possessions, and THEN you can approach the check-in desk. While waiting among the other 120 people there, we witnessed a group of at least 6 rather obnoxious individuals creating a scene and being escorted out of the building by 2 of the guards. Meanwhile the other 2 guards were dealing with a couple more of these animals who were unrelated to the first group, who were also causing problems in the ER.

HAD to be a full moon out last night..... :hairpull:

 

[Primersinmyshoe]

Highpwr, was that my Hosp, at Kingshighway and 40?

 

[Highpwr]

Bob, yes - one in the same.

Outstanding ER staff by the way. :notworthy:

 

[armsmaster270]

Highpower: At least they were also keeping others from bringing weapons in and also seems they were taking care of business.

Thats what I like about here no hospitals are posted but naturally they don't allow guns in mental wards so untill I go bonkers I'm ok. And if I go bonkers I probably won't know the difference.

 

[Gunfan]

Safe, and restful hospitals... NOT! And they wonder why we prefer to go armed!

Scott