[El Pistolero]

....but with a bull barrel and flgr.

Courtesy of another site:


http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?p=1719518#post1719518

 

[Bud White]

ya know its cool that they are bringing it back .. but more than likely i wont buy one little late as i have the 2 dws and i don't like bull barrels

 

[Bud White]

Heres Pics Hunter took them

 

[plowboy22]

Hmmmm....I may have to start saving my pennies...

 

[Barry in IN]

Well, I don't like the bull/bushingless barrel/FLGR at all (can it be changed?), and am not really nuts over the sights (which can be changed).
I like the grips,though.

But overall, I'm pretty happy it's back.

This, and possible return of the Bren Ten. A happy weekend for 10MM fans.

Maybe they thought the ever-so-slightly heavier barrel system will make it run a little softer and not pound itself. Seems like an overboard fix for using a plastic guide rod in the originals.
I still don't like it.

But...
Beggars can't be choosers!

 

[Bud White]

you can change out the flgr if you change out the barrel to a bushing style also ..

This and a double action new agent i think colt has missed the boat once more as always .. Im sure people will buy them and im happy for that but for me BLAH

 

[SatCong]

I well sit back and wait.

 

[icecold]

i'm thinking colt may have hit the nail in the head with the delta,other than the grips(wheres the classic delta emblem?),and their crappy beavertail.
i know the pureists won't love it but they can always buy a early delta as this should put their price in check.as for me i'm going to get one maybe 2 if they come in bright stainless.one never knows if they will keep these in their lineup.
maybe there will be some new loads coming.

pete

 

[plowboy22]

I want a 10mm for my collection and this may fit the bill nicely for me.

 

[El Pistolero]

ya know its cool that they are bringing it back .. but more than likely i wont buy one little late as i have the 2 dws and i don't like bull barrels

I don't care for bull barrels either and I wonder why they went with one. I have not owned a single colt that I thought did not need a bushing change so I'm not sure I trust them to get a bull barrel any tighter. That's one of the reasons I went with the oacp over the defender and new agent, it's easy to change the bushing to tighten it up. If it does not have one fugedaboudit, can't tighten it without replacing the barrel.

The flgr is easy to change and other than the bull barrel it's pretty sharp looking. I sold all my 10mm's though so I won't be picking one up.

 

[Barry in IN]

As far as swapping out parts to go to a conventional barrel/bushing/guide rod- Is it that simple? Will the slide have the cut for the bushing's lug, for example?
I know you can't say with 100% certainty until they are out there, but how are most 1911s with this system? Are their slides machined any differently at the muzzle? I've never owned one like that.

 

[El Pistolero]

The guide rod/plug should be no problem at all. A number of 1911's come with the flgr and they get changed out to gi, the xse I had came with a flgr and got changed out. Just pop in. The 10mm's have the same guide rods as the .45's. One thing to note is that it will take a reverse plug with the bull barrel. Sometimes a flgr with a "capture hole" is easier to deal with using a reverse plug than a gi style rod. I don't know if this will be the case on this one or not and I have not had a reverse plug in anything larger than an officers.

The bushing I don't know about. I don't know if the slide is cut for the lug or not. I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with the bull setup, I just don't care for them as most production 1911's are not tight enought for me (barrel) and I replace the bushing. Many like the bull barrel though.

 

[Bud White]

If there is no bushing then no change to a gi system with a bull barrel you have to have the guide rod and reverse bushing... Hard to say about the cut some gun makers still have the cut others don't..


since to tighten one up you need a new barrel ill pass plus your going to need a funky take down tool..

 

[El Pistolero]

The officers model come from the factory with a reverse plug and gi style guide rod, I'm not sure why the others couldn't be ran that way if desired. Again I have not ran anything but the officers that way and probably wouldn't.

 

[Bud White]

The officers model come from the factory with a reverse plug and gi style guide rod, I'm not sure why the others couldn't be ran that way if desired.

Simple Reason $$$$ save a whole 5$ or so with no bushing or bushing cut

 

[El Pistolero]

No, I'm talking about the reverse plug with gi style rod. Not the bushing. The officers comes like that so I would think it would be possible to do it on a larger gun, but I wouldn't do it.

 

[Bud White]

They would still need the bushing i do believe for a setup like on the officers

 

[El Pistolero]

No, the bushing does not hold the officers reverse plug in. The tab on the factory one and the collar/hat or whatever they call it on the others.

 

[Bud White]

your right it the factory does thats what i was thinking of.. but i nbet it still cost a Extra 5$ to do it that way .. so thats why most won't use it ..

Or it takes hand fitting and they can't figure out how to make the cnc machine do it .. since hand fitting is pretty much becoming a lost art

 

[El Pistolero]

I agree with that, too cheap to do it. I just don't trust colt or any other production company to get it as tight as I like it and with no bushing what you see is what you get.