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Hello everyone. I have a full size Stainless (108284) with the wood grips and target sights. A few weeks ago, I was out in my woods behind my house at 11 pm with a maglite trying to get a shot at a possum that had been raiding the garage for days. It became obvious very quickly that night sights or Laser grips would have been a real advantage...not only for this situation, but for a home invasion/self defense situation that normally occurs in poor light conditions. What are your opinions of the Crimson Trace Laser Grips? I`m thinking very seriously of saving my pennies to get a set of these.
 

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msjdgman, I have a set on my stainless 220 SIG and They work well but to tell the truth I rarely use them.Because of two reason 1) They work great at the footage you sighted them in for at CQC they can be 4'' offin both directions.2) They also show the perp. where you are also. I also have the insight M6 which I attached to the railed on my Warrior, that is on my nightstand and the light alone should blind them , plus I have the laser set for 10', which most CQC happens in or closer.
 

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I do understand the limitations and potential of giving away your location due to the beam....but I`m still thinking it might prove to be a good option. With the wrap around finger activation switch, and a little practice, activation of the laser could be an as needed user controlled thing. Thank you for the feedback.
 

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Like I said I have one on my Stainless SIG 220, I feel it is more of a deterrent, when anyone see's a red dot on them they do some fast thinking and running lol
 

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I found them to be fun to play with but my confidence level wasn't there. I ended up with M6 and TruGlo TFO's and I'm much happier with them. In training, I've been on the receiving end of the M6 in low light and let me tell you, it is extremely blinding.
 

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Lasergrips?
YES! YES! YES!
I have them on my J-frame smith .38 and on my Taurus PT 1911 AR.
I guess using them might give your positon away, but I think they are a deterrent, too.
Advantages:
You can focus on the target instead of the front sight.
You can keep the gun close by your side at waist level, if needed for weapon retention, and still hit your target.
If the bad guy is of average bad guy intelligence and has been to the movies, he "knows" the guy with the laser hits his target dead center, every time, out to at least 500 yards.
You can turn them off with the switch on the grip, if you want to.
If you wear glasses, you can hit your target without your glasses on. After all, you don't sleep with your glasses on, do you?

Can you tell I REALLY like my lasergrips?
 

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The new Crimson trace grips look sweet!LG-401 Pro-Custom

Burlwood, Front Activation

Fits Models: 1911 and 1991A1 full-size single-stack frames, including: Auto-Ordance, Les Baer, Colt, Kimber, Olympic Arms, Para-Ordnance, Sig Sauer. * Ambidextrous-safety models require shortened safeties, available from Crimson Trace. Kimber 1911 owners with ambi-safety must see a gunsmith.
Price: $359

 

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The new Crimson trace grips look sweet!LG-401 Pro-Custom

Burlwood, Front Activation

Fits Models: 1911 and 1991A1 full-size single-stack frames, including: Auto-Ordance, Les Baer, Colt, Kimber, Olympic Arms, Para-Ordnance, Sig Sauer. * Ambidextrous-safety models require shortened safeties, available from Crimson Trace. Kimber 1911 owners with ambi-safety must see a gunsmith.
Price: $359


I said I`ll start saving my pennies.....maybe quite a few pennies. :biggrin:
 

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MSJ That does look sweet, I got it in my E-Mail since I already own one. I thought the new look is nicer then the older style.
 

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I know that this post is a few months old, but it is actually helping me make a decision about buying grips myself. I've noticed that no one ever brings up a reason that I hope I never have to face. What if a BG has one of your loved ones and uses them as leverage? I'm sorry, I'm by no means a tough guy, but when it comes to my family and there lives. I have a responsibility to protect them. If some A-hole decided to make my home his next target and decided to take one of my own as a "human shield" expecting me to "drop my weapon" UH, UH, not gonna happen. This ain't the movies and there is no second chance. Now, if having that little red dot can assist me in making the right choice, then better for me.

Lately I've been having some great conversations with fellow gun owners at the local shop (which is begining to feel like an old time barbershop, if you know what I mean) and most feel that the use of a rail light or laser simply give your position away. Well, so does the sound of your footsteps, or your wife freaking out while calling 911 or your children suddenly awaken and stumbling into your part of the house in fright.

I honestly believe that lights and lasers are effective tools that can help aid in your home defense. It's all in the application and practice of the device. Would I walk around my home with the rail light on and finger on trigger, no! It is effective in identifying a possible threat or simply your kid getting up for some water.

Well, now that I've said all of that. It's time for me to head over to midway and order me a set of CTLG for my 1911. They are on sale. Good night guys.
 

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I have the CT grips on my two carry 1911's and the little S&W 642.

I align my lasers to be parallel to the bore, not dead on. That way the laser and point of impact relationship is the same no matter what the distance. The bullet always hits a little above and to the left of the red dot. That is what works for me. I'm not going to be shooting through a keyhole.
 

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I chose to go with a light as well as a laser on my rail. The talk at the "Shop" is always interesting, but you have to go with what YOU are comfortable with.

Remember, practice, practice, practice... and yes, pray you never need it.
 

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It's my understanding that the CT's blossom out after a few yards into a very "not so laser like" blotch of reddish light. It seems they would be real good for quick-rough targeting. When you just need to get in the general area really really fast,but I don't think they could be trusted to be ''on-point accurate'' for shooting over a loved one but scoring on the bad guy. I see three possible out comes.......1.You hit the perp. 2.You hit your wife. 3.You miss both of them all together. Out of 3 possible outcomes..........2 of them suck!!!
 

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I have three CT grips, and they do not "blossom out" after a few yards. They hold a nice dot way past 25 yards.
 

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I was trying to remember where I saw that Crimson Trace grips expanded after X-number of yards. Just for the heck of it I hit you tube. I don't know why I never thought of this, but if your pulling your shots,nosing over,jerking the trigger, whatever.....here's your answer!! Slap on a set of CT's and tape yourself at the range!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixWtEjNdoyM&NR=1

p.s.- I'm still tryin' to figure out where I got that from. Even if my statements are wrong,I still want to produce a source.
 

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Cody, I'd be curious also as to the source of your information.

I am a fan of the CT grips, and would not like to see their reputation sullied without evidence to back it up.
 

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I always thought I had a pretty steady hold until I tried a set. That little red dot was dancing all over the place. How embarrassing! Just ordered a S&W 642 for the GF with a set factory installed.
 

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This is not who I got my original information from. However, in my searching I have found good evidence to believe them to be pretty accurate within most practical handgun distances of use. CT's site states a dot size of half an inch at fifty feet. These folks claim the same with the added three inch dot size at one hundred yards. I don't know anyone with a house that has a 100 yard living space. Not to long ago I did a pretty extensive search on the net for different sighting systems. There is a very good chance that the video clip I saw making the claim that CT's blossomed out was a competitor of theirs, and probably overstating their system versus CrimsonTrace. Regardless, I still can not find my original source, so it should still be considered that I am sullying their reputation without verified data Primersinmyshoe.
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http://www.gunaccessories.com/Lasergrips/index.asp
 

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Here's my three carry guns, with the CT grips:
 
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