Even if i did i wouldn't admit to it on a public Forum
Carry/Leave Firearm in car?
Unfortunately, my workplace policies prohibit having a weapon of any kind on any premises owned or leased by the company. This includes my personally owned vehicle which I use for company business with compensation for it`s use. I routinely travel thru some pretty questionable areas, and often very remote areas that are prone to high drug activity (meth labs). I flat out violate this policy (quietly of course) by keeping one of my 1911`s in a safe bolted to the floor behind the drivers seat, and covered with some of either my sales or reference materials. My question is how many others carry or leave their weapon in their vehicle, and under what circumstances.
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I obey the law. I carry everywhere I go but banks, the VA (they are lucky) and all Federal buildings. I am not a drinker so I don't hit bars and carry i hate to leave my gun in the car but if I have to it is one of my Glocks at least!
Un-uh. No leavie gun in car.
The weapon stays with me or I don't carry.
The weapon stays with me or I don't carry.
Don't get me wrong I will have my SOG Trident Knife and OC on me. I just can't see the Doctor's at the VA being thrilled when they want to hear my heart and say raise your shirt and seeing my gun!
Believe me, I understand the sentiment. But if I had to leave my gun at home, I would only be carrying 1.5 days a week. I`d rather have the small inconvenience of having to get it out from behind the seat than to not have it at all. And also, when I`m off duty, my gun comes out and on my person for the trip home. With the passive theft detterent system of the vehicle, I`m not too worried about theft. And without a torch...the safe isn`t coming out period.Un-uh. No leavie gun in car.
The weapon stays with me or I don't carry.
Edc
Unless its prohibited by law, Mr. revolver goes with me!
Scott
Unless its prohibited by law, Mr. revolver goes with me!
Scott
What he said. Only three people should know when you do wrong...God, your spouse, and your lawyer.Even if i did i wouldn't admit to it on a public Forum
I will admit that I have left my pistol in my vehicle before, but it is almost always for a very short period of time.
I routinely travel thru some pretty questionable areas, and often very remote areas that are prone to high drug activity (meth labs). I flat out violate this policy (quietly of course) by keeping one of my 1911`s in a safe bolted to the floor behind the drivers seat, and covered with some of either my sales or reference materials.
Welp, I certainly wouldn't advocate violating any laws
But if'n "I" was to violate any laws because I deemed it justified due to dangerous surroundings, that gun would be on my person.
no offense, Bro, but if you're going to risk loosing your job or loosing your carry permit because you feel the "need" is there to violate the law, I darn sure wouldn't have it in a safe BEHIND my seat.
It would be where i could put it to use 'right now".
Bad things can happen in a hurry.
A thug will bust you over the back of your head while your reaching BEHIND a seat and shoving paper work a side to get the safe open
..L.T.A.
I have to say the same USMCMP, I really will not try and break the law. I go to the VA alot and that is a Federal building and no guns are allowed i hate to lose my CCP for not obeying the law.
I carry anywhere its legal. And yes, if need be I will conceal it in the vehicle until I can return and retrieve it.
As Bud and others have said, if you do violate policies and/or the law don't advertise it on an open forum!!
As Bud and others have said, if you do violate policies and/or the law don't advertise it on an open forum!!
I certainly understand everyones sentiment concerning breaking laws. That is not something I will do period. But choosing to ignore a company policy...that is a personal choice. My choice. I honestly believe that my company`s policy is to satisfy our risk management (Insurance) company. BUT...even if it`s not....jobs can be replaced, but I can`t. As to making an announcement on a public forum....I`m not concerend about this one ounce. The likelyhood that any one will ever connect the dots to me is, in my opinion, so slight that I don`t care. But I do appreciate the concern of those here on this forum.
Another thing you might want to consider msjdgman, is that some states may treat company policies like a store owner saying you cannot carry inside their store. In which case if you violate the company policy you are violating the law!
In Alabama, if a store/property owner states that you cannot carry in/on their property and you do so you are violating the law.
In Alabama, if a store/property owner states that you cannot carry in/on their property and you do so you are violating the law.
What if you are attacked and seriously injured or killed on your way to work and because of your company's policy you had to leave your gun at home, would the company you work for be liable to you or your family?
Someone mentioned that it might be an insurance risk to the company to allow you to leave a weapon locked up in your vehicle, but I would think that they are also at risk when they deny you the opportunity to exercise your 2nd amendment rights as well.
What do you all think?
Someone mentioned that it might be an insurance risk to the company to allow you to leave a weapon locked up in your vehicle, but I would think that they are also at risk when they deny you the opportunity to exercise your 2nd amendment rights as well.
What do you all think?
This is an area of the law that I have not researched. Since I do not carry on body while on company premises, and my gun is locked in a safe in my truck while on premise, this would be the only area of concern for me. Whether or not this could lead to criminal charges, I don`t know. Many company upper management people including my boss are avid sportsmen and or CPL holders, and I highly doubt....truly highly doubt anyone will ever ask to inspect the inside of my truck let alone my locked safe, and it is upon this premise that I feel comfortable in my decision to knowingly violate this company policy.Another thing you might want to consider msjdgman, is that some states may treat company policies like a store owner saying you cannot carry inside their store. In which case if you violate the company policy you are violating the law!
In Alabama, if a store/property owner states that you cannot carry in/on their property and you do so you are violating the law.
I've seen this discussed on one of the other forums and I believe one of the lawyers chimed in and stated that they would have no libility, but I'm not sure. You might do a search and find the answer thereWhat if you are attacked and seriously injured or killed on your way to work and because of your company's policy you had to leave your gun at home, would the company you work for be liable to you or your family?
Someone mentioned that it might be an insurance risk to the company to allow you to leave a weapon locked up in your vehicle, but I would think that they are also at risk when they deny you the opportunity to exercise your 2nd amendment rights as well.
What do you all think?
It was food for thought, I'm always trying to find the angles and work them.I've seen this discussed on one of the other forums and I believe one of the lawyers chimed in and stated that they would have no libility, but I'm not sure. You might do a search and find the answer there
Unfortunately, my workplace policies prohibit having a weapon of any kind on any premises owned or leased by the company. This includes my personally owned vehicle which I use for company business with compensation for it`s use. I routinely travel thru some pretty questionable areas, and often very remote areas that are prone to high drug activity (meth labs). I flat out violate this policy (quietly of course) by keeping one of my 1911`s in a safe bolted to the floor behind the drivers seat, and covered with some of either my sales or reference materials. My question is how many others carry or leave their weapon in their vehicle, and under what circumstances.
Seldom and not for long. When one gets a nice pistol stolen from your truck you tend to be very careful. :bawling:
I obey the law...but company policy means NOTHING to me...if they are not legally posted at the entrances...I'm packing...if they are...I'm looking for a new job.
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